PUBM profits name for the length finishing December 31, 2024.

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PubMatic (PUBM -2.92%)This fall 2024 Income CallFeb 27, 2025, 4:30 p.m. ET

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Operator

Hi, everybody, and welcome to PubMatic’s fourth quarter and whole yr 2024 profits name. My identify is Kelsey, and I can be your Zoom operator nowadays. We thanks all on your attendance nowadays. And as a reminder, nowadays’s webinar is being recorded.

And I can now flip the decision over to Stacie Clements with the Blueshirt Crew. Stacie, over to you.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Just right afternoon, everybody, and welcome to PubMatic’s profits name for the fourth quarter and whole yr 2024. That is Stacie Clements with the Blueshirt Crew, and I will be your operator nowadays. Becoming a member of me at the name are: Rajeev Goel, co-founder and CEO; and Steve Pantelick, CFO. Prior to we get began, I’ve a couple of home tasks pieces.

As of late’s ready remarks were recorded, and then, Rajeev and Steve will host are living Q&A. [Operator instructions] A duplicate of our press unencumber can also be discovered on our web page at buyers.pubmatic.com. I want to remind individuals that all over this name, control will make forward-looking statements, together with, with out limitation, statements referring to our long run efficiency, marketplace alternative, expansion technique, and fiscal outlook. Ahead-looking statements are in keeping with our present expectancies and assumptions referring to our enterprise, the financial system, and long run prerequisites.

Those forward-looking statements are matter to inherent dangers, uncertainties and adjustments in instances which might be tough to are expecting. You’ll in finding extra details about those dangers, uncertainties, and different components in our experiences filed every now and then with the Securities and Change Fee and are to be had at buyers.pubmatic.com, together with our most up-to-date Shape 10-Ok and our next filings on Shape 10-Q or 8-Ok. Our exact effects might vary materially from the ones pondered through the forward-looking statements. We warning you, subsequently, in opposition to depending on any of those forward-looking statements.

All data mentioned is as of nowadays, February twenty seventh, 2025, and we don’t intend and adopt no legal responsibility to replace any forward-looking commentary, whether or not on account of new data, long run trends, or in a different way, excluding as possibly required through regulation. As well as, nowadays’s dialogue will come with references to sure non-GAAP monetary measures, together with adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP web source of revenue, and loose money waft. Those non-GAAP measures are offered for supplemental informational functions solely and must now not be regarded as an alternative to monetary data offered based on GAAP. A reconciliation of those measures to probably the most at once similar GAAP measures is to be had in our press unencumber.

And now, I can flip the decision over to Rajeev.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Thanks, Stacie. And welcome, everybody. 2024 was once a yr of forged profit expansion and margin growth, pushed through power in CTV, new merchandise and profit streams, and marquee shoppers opting for PubMatic to construct and scale their advert companies. Earnings expansion for the yr greater than doubled, rising 9% over 2023.

We delivered expanded adjusted EBITDA margins of 32%, and we returned to a Rule of 40 corporate. This marks our fourth of the remaining 5 years that we exceeded this benchmark. Those effects come with an important headwind in desktop show, which began in Might of 2024 associated with a unmarried DSP spouse. Within the fourth quarter, the affect from this fireplace delivered a softer-than-anticipated seasonal uptick.

Having a look past this remoted affect, we delivered sturdy underlying expansion in all different spaces of the enterprise. We additionally benefited from vital power in political advert spend. Except for profit from this DSP and political promoting, This fall profit was once up 16% yr over yr. And I am specifically happy with the size of our CTV enterprise, which represented 20% of our This fall profit, greater than doubling its percentage of our enterprise as opposed to the prior yr.

I wish to thank all the group for his or her arduous paintings and constant focal point on our technique. As I stay up for 2025, we’re a materially other corporate than we have been only some years in the past. Our combine of industrial has modified, and our platform has expanded past core SSP generation. A large percentage of our profit and expansion are actually pushed through excessive shopper engagement channels comparable to CTV, cell app, and trade media.

We now serve 4 key visitor segments: publishers, media consumers, trade media networks, and curators or information suppliers. As we ship cost and enlarge utilization with each and every visitor section, the price proposition of our platform to different segments will increase, making a flywheel that speeds up profit expansion and will increase profitability. As an example, distinctive call for by the use of our provide trail optimization offers and Turn on resolution with Dentsu, GroupM, and Mars draws top class writer stock from streamers like Roku, TCL, and DISH TV and cell apps like Audiomob, Unfastened Play, and SoundCloud to our platform. Our blended power of provide and insist draws high-value information suppliers like Experian, MC Answers, and Proximic through Comscore and trade media firms like Instacart and Western Union who wish to develop their advert companies.

Those wealthy and compelling datasets, in flip, draw in extra consumers looking for increased go back on advert spend within the open Web, and the cycle repeats. Consequently, we’ve got a powerful rising footprint around the ecosystem. Key to that is our multiyear funding in product innovation in our SSP and OpenWrap wrapper resolution for publishers and provide trail optimization and Turn on for media consumers and Attach for curators and information suppliers and Convert for trade media networks. Those merchandise have expanded our finish visitor base and greater than doubled our general addressable marketplace to over $120 billion for the reason that time of our IPO 4 years in the past.

As well as, early adoption and prioritization of generative AI right through our enterprise has resulted in persisted innovation, greater productiveness, and bigger operational excellence. This focal point is already turning in compelling merchandise with super alternatives in 3 main spaces: optimizing and accelerating many inside purposes to pressure profitability, bettering our customer-facing merchandise and lines to pressure extra utilization and, subsequently, profit, and construction fully new functions that were not conceivable ahead of. I can pass deeper at the cost we carry to each and every visitor section, in addition to our generative AI technique. Let’s get started with publishers.

Hooked up TV and streaming was once our fastest-growing writer section in 2024, with expansion exceeding our expectancies in the second one part of the yr as we proceed so as to add top-tier broadcasters and streaming platforms like Roku, DISH Media, Disney+ Hotstar, and Xumo. We additionally added essential streamers like Vivo and Fremantle, who personal treasured content material and audiences which might be essential to advert consumers. Propelled through the surge of political advert bucks, profit from omnichannel video reached a excessive watermark of greater than 40% in This fall, of which part was once CTV. Our platform is all of a sudden gaining CTV marketplace percentage as CTV increasingly more shifts from insertion order-based shopping to programmatic.

We proceed to onboard new streamers and now paintings with 80% of the Most sensible 30 globally, up from 70% 1 / 4 in the past. Our tough product functions and datasets create sticky visitor engagement, wherein streamers are increasingly more the use of our platform to arrange and execute their direct offered programmatic offers. In the second one part of 2024, we introduced the CTV market, which aggregates like stock throughout our platform, providing consumers explicit stock classes like Gen Z for Hispanic audiences. Consequently, our streaming companions are having access to incremental advert call for.

That is very true within the fast-growing are living sports activities class and why main TV producer and streaming content material supplier, TCL, selected PubMatic. Our CTV market integrates TCL viewership information and top class stock with our privateness secure concentrated on resolution. In keeping with Jeremy Immediately, TCL commercials VP and world basic supervisor, the partnership, “Permits advertisers to leverage TCL’s top class stock, together with their ad-supported TCL TV+ app that brings numerous broadcast sports activities content material and channels to over 24 million audience to connect to this treasured target market in a extra focused and efficient means.” With are living sports activities as a number one catalyst for our persisted CTV expansion, I am excited to scale this partnership and leverage our provide trail optimization relationships to assist TCL develop its electronic advert enterprise. Cellular app additionally supplies vital alternative for publishers and app builders to take part within the open Web promoting ecosystem.

For the overall yr, our cell app enterprise grew 16% yr over yr, pushed through our OpenWrap SDK, a number one cell mediation resolution that integrates into cell apps and gives get admission to to programmatic open Web advert call for. With our not too long ago introduced cell partnership beginning to ramp up, together with our fresh growth into social media with X, we’ve got over 900 cell app publishers on platform. Given this huge alternative in entrance people and our main SDK resolution, we consider this channel will keep growing within the double digits. The size and high quality of our top class publishers, blended with our tough generation answers, are attracting extra advertisers and companies to consolidate their shopping on PubMatic.

We crossed a big milestone in 2024 with greater than part of the job on our platform, 53% transacted by the use of provide trail optimization. That is up from a 3rd of job simply two years in the past, pushed through each new media consumers on platform and increasing shoppers by the use of multiyear strategic partnerships. We’ve a powerful partnership with IPG Mediabrands who leverages our sell-side generation to give a boost to advertiser ROI. By means of customizing PubMatic’s algorithms, they’ve advanced CPMs and win charges for purchasers.

And maximum not too long ago, using Turn on has optimized workflows and has advanced IPG’s talent to fulfill shopper efficiency targets. Consequently, our partnership with IPG Mediabrands has noticed vital expansion during the last 5 years. I am excited to proceed to spouse and innovate along IPG Mediabrands to ship extra cost for its companies and their purchasers. Turn on continues to gas expansion throughout our platform as purchasers search larger regulate and transparency throughout their promoting provide chains.

As well as, Turn on delivers treasured potency features with a mean lower in CPMs of 13%. This interprets to vital price financial savings for media consumers and an building up in operating media bucks that waft again to our publishers. Turn on is rising all of a sudden consequently with vital long-term doable. All six world company protecting firms now spend advert budgets on Turn on with a number of like IPG and Dentsu the use of our platform as a central generation in their very own proprietary media-buying answers.

2024 was once a breakout yr as we grew the selection of Turn on shoppers through just about six instances as opposed to the prior yr. Retail and trade media have emerged as pivotal elements of the promoting panorama, providing stock and target market information to manufacturers looking for extra impactful and measurable techniques to have interaction customers on the level of acquire. We proceed to scale our trade media enterprise remaining yr as consumers sought to succeed in high-intent customers and observe treasured transaction insights around the open Web. In a similar way, main trade media networks like Instacart, Greenback Basic, and Western Union selected to make their information and audiences to be had on PubMatic the place they are able to develop their off-site media enterprise whilst controlling get admission to to their information.

Our trade media platform, Convert, additionally allows shoppers to control their mixture of on-site and off-site media throughout a couple of channels and codecs, together with CTV, on-line video, cell app, and show. Intuit, for instance, selected PubMatic to assist energy their SMB MediaLabs, a first-of-its-kind media community centered only on small- and medium-sized companies. Thru this integration, Intuit makes 36 million identifiers to be had to advertisers whilst maintaining the underlying visitor information protected on Intuit’s platform. Consequently, advertisers can execute simpler business-to-business advertising campaigns around the open Web.

A lot of the good fortune we’ve got noticed throughout our off-site trade media enterprise is constructed off of multiyear investments in Attach, which is now a number one platform for information suppliers and curators to combine first-party information, bundle stock, promote to, and optimize results for his or her consumers. Importantly, sell-side curation with first-party information is now a important want for open Web advert consumers. First, it drives larger potency, scale, and transparency. 2d, information suppliers acquire greater regulate in their treasured target market information and, subsequently, develop their participation within the open Web.

And 0.33, sell-side curation reduces the desire for third-party cookies and closes the efficiency hole that advertisers generally see between walled gardens and the open Web. As curation evolves, we consider it’ll enlarge shopping job within the open Web as consumers search top class brand-safe stock. Strategically, the expansion of Attach diversifies our revenues. Those integrations generate incremental profit from information charges whilst additionally expanding the price of advert impressions.

We’ve got 190 datasets to be had for consumers on PubMatic. Now scaled, Attach shifts shopping job clear of third-party cookies to higher-ROI, data-driven impressions and fuels expansion throughout our platform. I am extraordinarily happy with the group and the entire arduous paintings that is going into construction revenue-generating merchandise like Turn on, Convert, and Attach. And now with scaled adoption of generative AI throughout our engineering group, we’ve got accomplished a number of key milestones.

In 2024, we greater engineering productiveness through over 15% through making use of generative AI generation to our instrument building, checking out, and unencumber processes. Extra not too long ago, we carried out Gen AI generation to customer-facing merchandise and lines that pressure extra utilization and, subsequently, profit. Closing quarter, I mentioned our resolution for political promoting, which unlocked tens of millions of bucks in political advert spend. Simply remaining month, we introduced PubMatic Assistant, a Gen AI-powered reporting device that permits publishers to request any document or information the use of easy undeniable language textual content queries.

Consequently, publishers can streamline analytics, give a boost to productiveness, and free up new expansion alternatives through uncovering insights and massive information. This can be a tough device that eliminates boundaries to adoption and drives greater platform utilization. Having a look forward, Gen AI will proceed to play the most important function in our strategic building. We think to unencumber a gentle cadence of thrilling functions over the following a number of quarters with a selected focal point on answers that can automate and streamline processes, pressure larger monetization and advert efficiency, and gas profit expansion.

As I wrap up, I wish to depart you with 3 ultimate ideas. First, our underlying enterprise is powerful. We delivered 16% year-over-year profit expansion within the fourth quarter, except the DSP affect and get pleasure from political advert spend. This was once properly forward of our inside expectancies.

Moreover, we crossed a thrilling milestone as CTV continues to scale and turns into a bigger percentage of our profit at 20% in This fall. And I might be remiss to not point out our focal point on are living sports activities, curation, and trade media. Investments in those spaces diversify our profit, building up publicity to secular expansion spaces, and supply an extended runway for expansion. With persisted momentum throughout all of those spaces, we’re concentrated on our underlying enterprise to develop 15%-plus yr over yr in 2025.

2d, our multiyear investments are turning in successful expansion and, simply as importantly, incremental cost to our shoppers. As a number one supplier of sell-side generation, we will be able to proceed to innovate and enhance our aggressive moat. And 0.33, there may be an inherent shift within the electronic provide chain the place larger cost is now positioned at the provide facet on the supply of first-party information. The way forward for the electronic provide chain contains information curation, advert efficiency, and greater potency.

We’ve a powerful basis at the provide facet and are a relied on strategic spouse to most of the global’s main publishers. The investments now we have made put us at the leading edge of this shift, and I could not be extra happy with the enterprise we’re nowadays and the alternatives that now lie forward people. I will now flip the decision over to Steve to speak about the financials and our working priorities.

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Thanks, Rajeev, and welcome, everybody. 2024 marked the most important inflection level in PubMatic’s expansion trajectory on account of our centered technique and multiyear investments. CTV, cell app, and our rising revenues each and every hit a document percentage of general corporate profit, and we accomplished an all-time excessive provide trail optimization job. This expansion enabled us to offset a profit headwind from a bidding trade through certainly one of our peak DSP consumers that emerged midyear.

Let me summarize our main 2024 accomplishments. First, we delivered our #1 precedence to boost up profit expansion. Overall revenues grew 9%, greater than double the velocity in 2023, pushed through will increase in each monetized impressions and CPMs. Except for the headwind of the DSP trade and the tailwind of political promoting, complete yr profit greater 11% yr on yr.

CTV profit greater than doubled in 2024 and in This fall reached 20% of general profit. Cellular app greater 16% and represented 20% of general profit. Rising profit streams doubled in 2024. SPO greater 8 share issues yr over yr and represented 53% of all platform job.

2d, we considerably expanded our margins and greater adjusted EBITDA through 23% yr over yr. Gross margin greater through 250 foundation issues and our adjusted EBITDA margin through 350 foundation issues. We shifted our profit combine to high-engagement channels like CTV, cell app, and rising revenues. We additional optimized our infrastructure, tightly controlled our capex investments, and greater engineering potency with Gen AI.

3rd, we controlled our operating capital to fund our expansion and execute our percentage repurchase program. We delivered $73 million in working money waft and $35 million of loose money waft. We purchased again over 4 million stocks in 2024, equating to an 8% relief in totally diluted stocks exceptional. We completed the yr with $141 million in money and marketable securities and no debt.

Those effects taken in combination are transparent evidence issues of the super alternatives forward people. First, this can be a affirmation that our multiyear way to make investments at the back of a very powerful secular expansion spaces is operating. And 2d, it demonstrates we will ship vital charges of benefit and money waft to fund our expansion whilst regularly decreasing our totally diluted moderate stocks exceptional. Turning to our fourth quarter profit effects.

Whilst general revenues have been under our expectancies, it was once a breakout quarter for CTV. Sturdy year-over-year expansion for CTV and political promoting helped to offset the affect from vulnerable vacation spending through the huge DSP purchaser that had modified its bidding manner mid-Might. In response to long-term ancient developments, This fall vacation promoting generally will increase in double-digit percentages as opposed to Q3. The speed of building up for this DSP was once within the unmarried digits and predominantly affected show codecs.

Except for revenues from this DSP purchaser and the get pleasure from political promoting, our underlying enterprise grew 16% and represented nearly two-thirds of general revenues. This underlying profit expansion demonstrates the ongoing secular combine shift in our enterprise towards high-value, high-engagement codecs and channels. Omnichannel video within the quarter reached an all-time excessive of 43% of general revenues. This expansion was once powered through CTV, which climbed to twenty% of general profit within the quarter, making the most of our rising stock scale, SPO relationships, and the uptick in political promoting.

Rising revenues additionally persisted the speedy expansion within the fourth quarter, greater than doubling yr over yr and emerging to six% of revenues. A selected standout on this class was once Attach, our curation and information enterprise, which grew 140% yr over yr. As known as out, show was once suffering from the low vacation spend through the huge DSP purchaser and declined 8% yr over yr. Except for this purchaser, all the show revenues greater over 20% yr over yr.

Shifting down the P&L. Over the process 2024, we aggressively controlled our price of profit, specializing in infrastructure optimization and leveraging prior capex investments. Consequently, in comparison to 2023, we have been in a position to stay our This fall and whole yr price will increase at 3% and a couple of%, respectively. On the identical time, we greater gross influence capability on our platform through 20% and lowered the price of profit consistent with million impressions through 18%.

Working bills for the fourth quarter and the overall yr have been $45.8 million and $186.3 million, respectively. Over the process the yr, we made focused investments within the secular expansion spaces, which delivered the quickest expansion charges for us. On a complete yr foundation, working bills grew at part the velocity of 2023 as we leveraged prior investments and received increased productiveness from new group participants right through 2024. This fall GAAP web source of revenue was once $13.9 million or $0.26 consistent with diluted percentage.

Complete yr web source of revenue was once $12.5 million or $0.23 consistent with diluted percentage. Underscoring the convenience we’re getting from higher-value profit streams, operational potency, and price leverage, our This fall adjusted EBITDA got here in forward of expectancies at $37.6 million or 44% margin. Complete yr adjusted EBITDA was once $92.3 million or 32% margin. Turning to money waft, a long-term focal point for us.

Since going public in December 2020, we’ve got generated over $330 million in web money supplied through working actions and $175 million of loose money waft. In 2024, we generated $73.4 million in web money supplied through working actions and loose money waft of $34.9 million. As a reminder, starting in Q3, we noticed an building up in DSOs associated with the DSP trade. We await that this DSO trade will normalize mid-2025.

Shifting to money and our capital allocation. We’ve a wholesome stability sheet and generate certain money waft, which helps our long-term capital allocation technique. We ended the quarter with $140.6 million in money and marketable securities and 0 debt. Because the inception of our repurchase program in February 2023, throughout the finish of This fall, we’ve got purchased again 8.3 million Magnificence A not unusual stocks for $134.6 million.

As of the tip of the fourth quarter, we had $40.4 million last in our repurchase program licensed thru December thirty first, 2025. Turning to 2025. We’re assured that our expansion methods are not off course and we’re well-positioned to execute them. Over the primary part of 2025, as prior to now known as out, we will be able to be transitioning throughout the decrease year-over-year spend ranges through this DSP purchaser till we lap it on the finish of Q2.

This headwind will predominantly have an effect on the show portion of our enterprise and boost up our profit shift towards the fastest-growing secular classes of CTV, cell app, and our rising revenues. Out of doors of this near-term DSP headwind, our revenues are rising all of a sudden, and we consider we’re in the most important inflection level. In Q3 and This fall, our underlying enterprise, except the DSP purchaser and political, grew 17% and 16%, respectively. This yr, we’re concentrated on this portion of our enterprise to develop 15%-plus yr over yr.

To reinforce this degree of persisted expansion and ship wholesome margins, we’re adopting a two-pronged working technique. First, we will be able to leverage the investments made in gross sales and generation and selectively upload experts to reinforce the fastest-growing spaces. In 2024, we accomplished a subject matter step forward with regards to scale and expansion in high-engagement channels, and we’re not off course to proceed this momentum. 2d, we will be able to considerably enlarge our utilization of Gen AI to pressure potency and expansion, together with funding in customer-facing Gen AI merchandise, as Rajeev defined previous.

We consider those investments will set us up for our subsequent level of expansion later this yr and subsequent through increasing revenues with current shoppers and concentrated on new shoppers and markets. Turning to our monetary outlook. The certain developments of 15%-plus expansion in our underlying enterprise have persisted quarter thus far. On the identical time, we also are seeing a continuation of the softer developments for the huge DSP that emerged within the latter part of This fall.

Accordingly, in creating our outlook, we’re taking a conservative stance with appreciate to this purchaser and are assuming its present run price will proceed with restricted upward seasonality in 2025. With this in thoughts, we think Q1 profit to be within the vary of $61 million to $63 million, factoring within the DSP headwind famous and double-digit share expansion of our underlying enterprise. With our profit outlook and predominantly mounted price base, we’re estimating our Q1 adjusted EBITDA vary to be $5 million to $7 million. This outlook features a detrimental FX affect, predominantly from euro and pound sterling bills relative to weakening greenback this quarter.

Turning to the stability of 2025, we’re assuming a continuation of the newest run charges for this DSP and our underlying enterprise grows 15%-plus. In relation to year-over-year comparisons, this means that general corporate profit within the first part of the yr can be relatively down yr over yr within the low single-digit percentages. For the second one part, we await general profit will develop yr over yr within the excessive single-digit percentages and components within the tricky comp from political. For reference, political promoting contributed roughly 6% of general profit in 2024.

In relation to bills, we’re not off course to proceed using operational efficiencies, productiveness enhancements, and focused investments to pressure our secular expansion. We await our price of profit to extend sequentially quarter to quarter within the low single-digit percentages, very similar to 2024. We predict that our price leverage and persisted combine shift towards high-value codecs will permit us to extend our complete yr gross margin price. With appreciate to opex from Q2 onwards, we’re concentrated on quarter-to-date sequential will increase within the low single-digit percentages.

In relation to adjusted EBITDA, as we transition throughout the DSP affect, our first part margins can be relatively not up to ancient ranges with 2d part margins extra consistent with ancient developments. For the overall yr, we’re expecting the adjusted EBITDA margin to be within the excessive 20% vary, which contains a number of million greenback affect from FX. Complete yr capex is projected to be very similar to 2024’s degree of roughly $18 million, with maximum of our capex expected in Q3. In relation to loose money waft, we await it’ll be quite decrease within the first part till we lap the midyear trade in DSP spending after which go back to ancient ranges.

In last, I wish to take the chance to in short summarize. 2025 can have some tricky comps, which obscures our underlying wholesome expansion. The full affect from one massive DSP purchaser has been vital, however it is remoted to at least one portion of our enterprise, basically desktop show. We grew thru this affect in 2024, and we think to do the similar in 2025.

We will be able to lap this modification in only some months and emerge with a bigger percentage of our enterprise coming from key secular expansion drivers. We’re assured in our talent to execute what’s inside our regulate and ship on our expansion technique. And in the end, we’ve got a powerful monetary profile and a confirmed sturdy type that delivers wholesome margins, incremental leverage, and money waft, and we will be able to arrange the enterprise thru this precedence lens. I will now flip the decision over to Stacie for Q&A.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Thanks, Steve. [Operator instructions] Our first query comes from James Heaney at Jefferies. Please pass forward, James.

James Heaney — Analyst

Nice. Thanks, guys, for the query. Steve, are you able to communicate a bit of bit extra concerning the month-on-month developments that you just noticed right through the quarter and whilst you began to peer probably the most weak point? And is there the rest it’s good to say with regards to general CPM developments as properly?

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Positive. You got here in a bit of bit faint there, but when I overlooked the query, simply name it out. However James, with appreciate to the sequential development thru fourth quarter, for our underlying enterprise, CTV, cell, all not off course with our expectancies, and in reality, the softness that we noticed came about in latter a part of This fall with the only DSP. However in a different way, the expectancies have been consistent with what we had expected.

And so, the softness was once by the use of the DSP and particularly within the show layout. In relation to CPMs, we in truth had rather excellent effects over the process 2024. On a full-year foundation, CPMs have been up. Within the fourth quarter, they have been certain.

And for the overall yr, monetized impressions have been additionally certain. And it in reality underscores the issues that Rajeev and I had made in regards to the essential development and traction now we have were given within the secular expansion spaces. Monetized impressions for CTV doubled, and now we have noticed nice expansion around the core underlying enterprise. And so, the difficult factor was once with appreciate to the only DSP, and we really feel that we’ve got a excellent care for on it founded upon the newest developments that we are seeing.

We have now articulated that during our outlook.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Thanks, Steve. Our subsequent query comes from Rob Coolbrith at Evercore. Please pass forward, Rob.

Robert Coolbrith — Analyst

Nice. Thanks such a lot. I sought after to invite or return to the huge DSP spouse. Are you able to let us know a bit of bit about possibly why the affect is restricted to show and specifically why you suppose you noticed it simply towards the latter a part of the quarter? After which, simply stepping again a bit of bit, is there — do you suppose there may be the rest that you wish to have to do with appreciate to that courting to assist them with their bid-shading algorithms or no matter is technically occurring? Or is there every other clarification? Is there any impairment of the connection? Or is it extra only a technical type of bidding factor? Thanks.

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Yeah. Giant image, Rob, without equal factor is that structural trade with appreciate to that DSP with regards to its bidding manner. As a reminder, it went from officially first and 2d worth bidding to only first, and that’s the reason type of a baking in procedure. And after that adjust, we noticed somewhat solid effects.

And going into the fourth quarter, we had expected reasonable seasonality, as is the case each and every fourth quarter. However the seasonality for that individual DSP was once about part the velocity as different DSPs. And traditionally, this DSP has been a predominantly show purchaser. And so, that is why you notice it coming throughout the show layout.

Now stepping again, it is a nice courting. It is a long-term courting. We are going to be transitioned thru this actual time period in a few months, and we are construction out incremental alternatives with the consumers. So from our viewpoint, it is in reality only a year-over-year similar problem, after which, we will be not off course yr over yr beginning in the second one part.

Now from an general corporate viewpoint, the core issues that we got down to do in 2024 was once to in reality pressure our secular expansion spaces, which is CTV, cell app, rising revenues, and all that was once very a success. And so, within the large image, what is going down through default is we’re turning into much less depending on show and extra listed to the fastest-growing spaces. As a working example, show now could be — desktop show is ready 20% of our general revenues. A few years in the past, it was once 15 share issues increased.

So from our viewpoint, we are proper heading in the right direction with regards to specializing in the quickest secular expansion spaces. And show will proceed to be the most important a part of our enterprise however a smaller phase going ahead.

Robert Coolbrith — Analyst

Nice. If I will be able to check out another. Are you able to communicate a bit of bit extra concerning the information alternative? What is — are there type of secular shifts within the business with regards to addressability which might be using your information alternative? And the rest you’ll be able to let us know about the way you dimension that or the way you take into consideration that chance internally? Thanks.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Yeah, certain. I will be able to take that, Rob. So extensively talking, what we see is a shift within the business towards sell-side concentrated on, proper? And that’s as a substitute of making use of information inside the DSP making use of it at the promote facet of the ecosystem. So what is using that shift is a few issues.

One is, clearly, the cookie is beneath power and DSPs basically are matching datasets from publishers throughout the SSP with the cookie. And so, the ones cookie swimming pools are drying up at the purchase facet. After which, 2d, the business is transferring towards numerous first-party datasets, proper? So whether or not that is logged in customers in a CTV setting or first-party writer information, and all of that sign with regards to high quality and scale is far more potent at the promote facet of the ecosystem. After which, 0.33, whilst you observe that information at the promote facet, it is simply way more environment friendly, proper? So we are in a position to use the information, after which, be sure that the consumer is solely shopping the impressions that they wish to purchase versus sending all the impressions to a DSP after which having the concentrated on carried out there.

So those are probably the most drivers of what is main towards the shift of sell-side concentrated on. And we predict we are in a in reality sturdy place as a result of now we have been operating for approximately part a decade now in this alternative, for the reason that’s how lengthy the cookie possibility has been in the market. So now we have considerably different our revenues clear of cookie-dependent promoting, proper, such things as CTV, cell app, trade media, which Steve discussed. We have now considerably greater the size of identifiers or information that is to be had on our platform instead of the cookie.

So over 90% of impressions now come with an alternate sign like a LiveRamp ID or Business Table ID, and so on. After which, 0.33, now we have invested very considerably in our Attach capacity set. We’ve got over 190 information companions which might be built-in in and dozens of consumers which might be the use of our platform to bundle stock after which promote that to consumers and the use of our platform to control all of the ones transactions. I feel the very last thing I would just upload about this is it is a nice enterprise for us as a result of we now not solely generate incremental information charges, however all the transactions incur an SSP rate as properly, and all of that spend is on our platform.

So it lets in us to pressure further profit to our publishers.

Robert Coolbrith — Analyst

Nice. Thanks very a lot.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

And our subsequent query comes from Zach Cummins of B. Riley. Please pass forward, Zach.

Zach Cummins — Analyst

Yep. Hello. Just right afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions.

I simply sought after to focal point in on CTV. Great to peer that proceeding to get traction on that facet. So are you able to simply speak about the place you are seeing good fortune at the CTV facet of it? Is there a selected class of media streamer this is specifically horny to PubMatic? And simply curious of roughly your runway for expansion on CTV over the following couple of years.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Positive. Completely. So yeah, I feel we are — clearly, you are seeing super effects from us with regards to CTV as mirrored through the 20% profit metric after which the truth that it greater than doubled on a year-over-year foundation. And so, in reality, what our focal point is, is that we’ve got been construction for this second, proper, which is the shift of CTV towards programmatic and clear of insertion order-based shopping.

And we are seeing precisely that occur presently. And so, now we have in reality concerned about construction the easiest platform out there to control all forms of programmatic transactions. And so, that is whether or not it is PMP, it is PG or it is open public sale. And so, what we are discovering is that publishers, streamers, broadcasters, increasingly of them are the use of us for his or her direct offered offers on account of the standard of our generation, UI, workflow, transaction control functions.

And we aren’t status nonetheless. We are augmenting that with Gen AI-based answers. So with regards to, Zach, the kind of writer, I imply, we shared that we are now operating at once with 80% of the Most sensible 30 streamers, so numerous marquee names like Roku, DISH Media, Disney+ Hotstar, Xumo, TCL. That is simply — that is up from 70% only a quarter in the past.

So you have got numerous very massive head broadcasters and streamers, in addition to extra roughly mid-market sized streamers, some digital-only, some coming from the TV facet. So we are seeing, I feel, sturdy good fortune around the board. After which, I feel what now we have accomplished very in a different way from others is in reality — I mentioned curation and information suppliers previous and along that trade media. So there may be Instacart information on our platform, Intuit information, Comscore information.

So I feel consumers and dealers are increasingly more mindful that we’re the position to transact in opposition to those compelling datasets. So I feel, extra extensively, as we lap the DSP trade from Q2 of 2024, I be expecting extra of our enterprise to be listed to secular expansion drivers. CTV is the most important of the ones, and we see an extended runway there with are living sports activities, information curation, provide trail optimization, and Turn on.

Zach Cummins — Analyst

Understood. Neatly, thank you for taking my questions, and highest of success for the remainder of the quarter.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Thanks.

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Thank you.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Our subsequent query comes from Andrew Boone at JMP. Please pass forward, Andrew.

Andrew Boone — Analyst

Hello. Thank you such a lot for taking my query. I sought after to invite about Turn on, proper? You guys mentioned six instances expansion. Are you able to simply assist us give an explanation for that? After which, Rajeev, simply extra strategically, communicate concerning the free up with regards to including extra call for to the platform general.

After which, Steve, some of the key takeaways for me no less than was once the Gen AI financial savings this quarter. Are you able to simply assist body that for us? What is the chance as we take into consideration fashions simply proliferating going ahead, and what that may free up on your opex line pieces? Thank you a lot.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Yep. Completely. So yeah, why do not I kick it off, Andrew, after which I will flip it over to Steve? So we are seeing clearly nice good fortune and expansion with Turn on. In fact, it is ranging from a small base, however we grew that six instances on a year-over-year foundation, which, clearly, may be very thrilling.

We have now were given each and every holdco shopping at the platform now, so we are seeing very sturdy trajectory with that enterprise. And in reality, what we are seeking to do with Turn on is to simplify the electronic promoting provide chain, make it extra environment friendly, make it extra clear, make it extra performant. And I feel that is the extensive theme of why we’re seeing good fortune right here as a result of SPO — our SPO manner pushed through Turn on is using efficiency and it is using potency, proper? So you almost certainly heard numerous the companies speaking about expansion of their outcomes-based enterprise. I feel GroupM mentioned that the day before today or nowadays as a space that they wish to focal point on.

And since with Turn on, we are in a position to make the end-to-end transaction much more environment friendly, it is a herbal play to pressure efficiency within the open Web. Now the opposite reason I feel it is operating thoroughly is the manner that now we have taken. It is advert layout agnostic. It is advert server agnostic.

It is software — shopper software agnostic. So actually, all 800 billion advert impressions which might be flowing thru our platform each day are eligible to be purchased by the use of Turn on. And so, that is resonating with consumers with regards to the simplicity and the size of it. Now with regards to, Andrew, the opposite a part of your query, any greenback {that a} purchaser places into Turn on, the ones bucks solely waft into our SSP, proper, as a result of Turn on is an instantaneous shopping resolution constructed inside our SSP.

And so, what that suggests is that each and every greenback is exclusive and incremental spend that solely publishers built-in into PubMatic will see. And so, for example, remaining quarter, we introduced that Dentsu’s Mercury for Media, their new shopping gadget, is constructed on Turn on and Attach generation from PubMatic. After which, one quarter later, you noticed that we went from over 70% penetration of the Most sensible 30 streamers globally to 80%. And so, the ones issues pass hand-in-hand, proper, the place then streamers say, OK, properly, I wish to get admission to extra Dentsu bucks, then I want to be sure that my stock is to be had inside the PubMatic platform.

So we predict it is a very sturdy lever for us to keep growing the availability facet of our enterprise and develop our revenues. I will flip it over to Steve for the opposite a part of your query.

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Positive. So Andrew, with appreciate to how we take into consideration the enhancements in productiveness through the years, completely, we await that is going to proceed. And simply as a reminder to everybody, as an organization, we’ve got device finding out in our DNA, a product-driven group, and now we have in truth been creating and dealing with more than a few AI equipment for a minimum of two years now. And you notice the effects at the engineering facet.

And maximum not too long ago, within the fourth quarter, we grew to become it to the profit facet, creating a brand new Gen AI product to pressure incremental political spend. So from us — from our viewpoint, we see this as a unbroken enhancement to each the price facet and the profit facet. And I might totally be expecting, let’s consider, in a selected yr, we may wish to upload 5% incremental headcount. Such things as the AI tasks at the engineering facet would now not necessitate that.

So from our viewpoint, it’ll be an ongoing alternative to proceed to get extra environment friendly and in addition pressure incremental profit. So I might expect, let’s name it, more or less 5% to fifteen% in any explicit yr growth on account of the entire actions we are doing round Gen AI.

Andrew Boone — Analyst

Thanks.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

And our subsequent query comes from Jason Helfstein of Oppenheimer. Cross forward, Jason.

Jason Helfstein — Analyst

Whats up, thank you. Two questions. First, at the first bid, 2d bid DSP factor, any — is that this a possibility now with every other DSPs, or they are all now on first bid? After which, 2d, are you able to communicate concerning the funding simply at the back of the buy-side merchandise, each R&D, gross sales, and simply roughly how that performs out, I assume, within the subsequent 12 to 18 months? Thank you.

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Positive. I will take the primary phase. So sure, the DSP trade was once the remaining one to head from first and 2d to only first. In order I identified mid remaining yr, that is one thing that many different DSPs had already moved to.

So that is in reality the overall transition with appreciate to this public sale trade. Nice. I will flip it over to Rajeev for the funding facet.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Yeah. Thank you, Steve. So yeah, Jason, from an funding viewpoint, we plan to aggressively take our SPO and Turn on, Curation, trade media, all of those merchandise to marketplace. We made investments in 2024 with regards to our gross sales group so that you could do this.

We are going to proceed to invest in 2025, increasing our gross sales group. I feel now we have were given lovely excellent protection at the holdcos, however there is a rising roster of manufacturers that wish to have interaction in SPO which might be excited by Turn on, and mid-market companies have a rising percentage of the entire spend within the ecosystem, and so, that is a key goal for us. Steve discussed this previous, however with appreciate to Gen AI, we discover that there are, clearly, productiveness alternatives, proper? And so, numerous what we are concerned about, along with customer-facing answers, is answers that make our personal group extra environment friendly. So for example, Gen AI answers that our visitor good fortune group can use, in order that they do not have to manually care for queries from shoppers, however as a substitute, we will automate the ones issues.

So I feel we are going to in finding some excellent alternatives to shift the combination of what our group is concerned about to be extra increasingly more centered at the purchase facet of the ecosystem.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

And our subsequent query comes from Matt Swanson at RBC. Please pass forward, Matt.

Matt Swanson — Analyst

Thanks. Possibly extra of an ecosystem query with regards to CTV. Rajeev, now we have at all times talked concerning the thought of it searching much more just like the open Web through the years, roughly the whole lot progressing that and bidding at scale. Strategically, is that also roughly like the place you are arrange for? Clearly, you’ve gotten noticed some good fortune in additional spaces than simply that.

Simply curious on the way you roughly suppose the CTV ecosystem evolves at this level.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Positive. Yeah. So we are nonetheless within the transition from predominantly insertion order-based shopping shifting into the — let’s consider, the initial or the nascent transaction sorts in programmatic, and so, that is programmatic assured and one-to-one personal market offers. We’re seeing, alternatively, increasingly alternative round public sale applications, which is a couple of publishers in one deal.

And so, we mentioned that with regards to CTV market the place we arrange a market the place consumers can are available and, for example, purchase Hispanic audiences or Gen Z audiences or are living sports activities, and that may be an important scale of stock throughout quite a few publishers. I feel, as that will get to scale, that can sooner or later result in open marketplace transactions. Now a part of the chance this is to control all of this from a yield viewpoint, proper, which is a writer could have offered an IO, they will have offered a PG or PMP deal, then they have were given incremental call for coming in from us from CTV market or from open public sale call for. So bringing all of those items of call for in combination, managing them in an advert pod, so there is not any aggressive warfare, using the yield, so the writer is turning in at the programmatic assured dedication, but additionally maximizing yield.

I feel those are all vital generation demanding situations and alternatives that we are very well-positioned so that you could construct for and ship cost for our shoppers. And so, I feel it in reality simply speaks to the significance and wish of sell-side generation inside the ecosystem.

Matt Swanson — Analyst

No, I recognize that. After which, Steve, I do know you at all times take numerous pleasure on your adjusted EBITDA, so I might throw any other query to you on that. In 1 / 4 like this the place you will have a profit shortfall and altered EBITDA nonetheless beats, is that only a testomony to how lean and successfully the enterprise is operating? Or are there levers that you are pulling mid-quarter to roughly regulate prices on that facet?

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Thank you, Matt. I’m very happy with what the group has achieved. And completely, it is been a serve as of long-term focal point on potency. We’ve an overly lengthy multiyear document of turning in EBITDA and a super fourth quarter.

And in the long run, it comes all the way down to working out the levers through the years, however it is in reality concerning the structural facets of the way we constructed our enterprise. And it begins out with the gross margin line. A decade in the past, we made up our minds to possess and function our personal apparatus, and now we have been yielding the good thing about that ever since. That is allowed us to get leverage right through the length, right through a calendar yr.

And we indubitably noticed that during ’24. As you notice, the elemental price of profit line did not in reality building up that a lot yr over yr, whilst the impressions in truth greater 20%. So it is a serve as of numerous arduous paintings, focal point, and a DNA that turning in incremental peak line and base line is what we focal point on. And so, we are arrange to do this, and I totally be expecting we are going to proceed to function thru that precedence lens going ahead.

Matt Swanson — Analyst

Thanks.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Thank you, Steve. Our subsequent query comes from Ken Wu at Wolfe. Please pass forward, Ken.

Ken Wu — Wolfe Analysis — Analyst

Thank you, guys, for taking the query. Must we think headline expansion in the second one part of ’25 to converge to the 50% core enterprise expansion whenever you lap the DSP purchaser affect?

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Positive. Thank you, Ken. Simply as a reminder, we — the underlying enterprise may be very properly set as much as develop 50%-plus throughout the yr. I commented within the ready remark that to this point within the quarter, we are hitting that mark 15%-plus.

And so, that can indubitably proceed. Now as we pass into the second one part, as a reminder, we will be able to be lapping an important political spend that we accomplished in the second one part of 2024. And we have been in a position to succeed in that as a result of we are at scale. An important a part of that political spend was once by the use of CTV.

And so, we indubitably have been well-positioned. We advanced a Gen AI product to in truth incrementally fee that chance, so we will be able to be lapping that. However I totally be expecting, on a reported foundation, the second one part of ’25 as opposed to the second one part of ’24 can be within the excessive unmarried digits. And it’ll simply rely on type of the sequencing because the yr progresses with regards to the breakout above that degree.

Ken Wu — Wolfe Analysis — Analyst

Thanks. And for my follow-up, how must we take into consideration the incrementality of recent partnerships to 2025 profit expansion?

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

So we’ve got rather a couple of incremental new partnerships that now we have been creating. And so, it is — we are rolling the ones out each and every month, each and every quarter. So I do be expecting that so as to add incrementality in the second one part, specifically across the CTV enterprise that Rajeev and I’ve commented on.

Ken Wu — Wolfe Analysis — Analyst

Thank you, guys.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Thank you, Ken.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

And our subsequent query comes from Mauricio Munoz at Raymond James. Please pass forward, Mauricio.

Mauricio Munoz — Raymond James — Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. Simply going again to the good fortune you skilled in 4Q in CTV, how — what share of that — what a part of that blend would you characteristic to the power within the U.S. political season within the fourth quarter? And the way must we take into consideration CTV as a contributor going ahead? After which, I’ve a follow-up.

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Positive. So CTV political was once essential for us. However simply to step again, general, if we exclude the CTV political part of CTV revenues, we nonetheless doubled yr over yr in profit. So the underlying momentum may be very sturdy in our CTV enterprise, and so, with the political part, even quicker year-over-year expansion price.

And over the process 2024, political represented about 6% of profit. And inside the CTV political spend, that represented a bit of beneath a 3rd of the whole CTV profit. So the most important a part of the enterprise and displays the chance that we had in entrance people, and we capitalize on that. Now going ahead, I be expecting us so that you could proceed to broaden and develop our CTV enterprise.

So I might be expecting from the unadjusted with out political base to develop the teenagers — excessive teenagers through the years in 2025 and past.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Yeah, Mauricio, possibly I will simply upload a qualitative remark to that. We see a few developments in play right here. So one is that each and every writer is shifting towards having a couple of SSP in CTV. I don’t believe they will have 15 or 20 like they may within the show global, however they are indubitably going to have a couple of.

And a part of this is extra bids coming for his or her stock ends up in extra yields. I feel that is an overly transparent and resident level around the ecosystem with regards to how open Web promoting is buying and selling. So if in case you have a couple of SSP, you have got a couple of bids coming in on your stock, and the writer generates extra profit. After which, 2d, on account of our SPO and Turn on relationships, our Curation platform, our trade media platform, if a purchaser desires to shop for in opposition to Instacart information or Western Union information, then the ones bids are going to waft on our platform.

And so, after all, a streamer like Roku, for example, who is not too long ago simply made this transition as they have roughly close down their very own walled lawn and transfer to a extra open stance with CTV and obviously reaping the advantages of it, the ones are going to pressure vital expansion alternative and runway for us.

Mauricio Munoz — Raymond James — Analyst

That was once very useful. Thanks. After which, my follow-up is solely at the aggressive dynamics. And simply sought after to get your ideas at the aggressive panorama, clearly, from the SSP facet, but additionally because the strains between DSPs and SSPs proceed to blur.

Thanks.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Positive. Yeah, I will be able to take that. I imply I feel, glance, there may be — the ones strains blurring isn’t essentially new. When you take into consideration Google, DSP, clearly, they have been on purchase facet and promote facet for a long time.

Xandr, proper, is on each the purchase and promote facet. Yahoo! traditionally was once on each the purchase and promote facet. They have got exited a few of that. So Business Table, after all, with OpenPath.

So what we are in reality concerned about is how one can make the electronic promoting provide chain environment friendly, clear, performant, give extra regulate to our finish shoppers as a way to pressure their very own enterprise. And that’s from the ground up, proper, from the infrastructure possession that Steve discussed, our regulate of the community layer, the {hardware} layer, in addition to the instrument layer, and now construction generation programs, together with probably the most Gen AI programs we are operating on to offer that end-to-end regulate and visibility. So we predict that could be a profitable aggregate and profitable formulation for what each consumers and publishers wish to see as a way to proceed to pressure and scale their companies. On the identical time, I might say the business continues to consolidate, proper? So we are seeing uptick in M&A.

So we really feel that given our monetary profile, given our scale of relationships, generation integrations, over 1,900 publishers, we are in an overly sturdy place so that you could pressure that consolidation.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Thank you.

Mauricio Munoz — Raymond James — Analyst

Nice. Thanks.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Our subsequent query comes from Eric Martinuzzi at Lake Boulevard. Please pass forward, Eric.

Eric Martinuzzi — Analyst

Yeah. I sought after to — you gave us a comp for Q3 and This fall the place you excluded the huge DSP and the political spend. I feel it was once 17% in Q3 after which 16% in This fall. May just you ring a bell in me what have been the ones numbers in Q1 and Q2 of ’24?

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

Neatly, the political was once basically a 2d part building, and so — and the DSP part was once — did not get started till the second one part. So it is in reality solely related in the second one part of 2024. And since our reported numbers would have obscured that, that is why we made up our minds to wreck it out starting within the 0.33 quarter. And as a reminder, the primary quarter is trending proper on that trajectory, 15%-plus for more or less two-thirds of our revenues.

And so, in reality, the one noise that we’ve got presently is said to this one DSP. And starting the beginning of the 0.33 quarter, it’ll be on an apples-for-apples foundation.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Yeah. And Eric, if I may just simply upload. Simply stepping again, as we discussed, that impacted DSP is basically a show purchaser. So the sensible affect is that we are deleveraging clear of the extra cyclical show enterprise and releveraging towards most of the secular expansion spaces that now we have known as out, CTV, cell app, trade media, Curation.

And you’ll be able to see, clearly, the sturdy expansion there. So whilst we did not consciously make this selection once we lap the transition in Q2, we are going to pop out of it with a faster-growing enterprise and extra of our assets aligned to the secular expansion spaces. And I feel that is unequivocally a excellent factor.

Eric Martinuzzi — Analyst

Were given it. Thank you.

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

And there are not more questions within the queue. Right now, I’ll flip the decision again over to Rajeev for last remarks.

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Thanks, Stacie, and thanks, all, for becoming a member of us nowadays. 2024 was once a thrilling yr for us as we greater than doubled our profit expansion price over 2023 and expanded our margins, returning to a Rule of 40 corporate. 2025 can be similarly thrilling as we considerably deleverage clear of the cyclical show enterprise and releverage towards key secular expansion spaces: CTV, cell app, trade media, and Curation. For ’25, we’re concentrated on speeded up expansion of 15%-plus on this underlying portion of our enterprise with super alternative to realize marketplace percentage.

We stay up for seeing a lot of you at upcoming meetings. Subsequent week, we will be on the Voters JMP Era Convention, in addition to the KeyBanc Rising Era Summit. Thanks, everybody, for becoming a member of us nowadays, and feature a super afternoon.

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Name individuals:

Stacie Clements — Investor Members of the family

Rajeev Goel — Co-Founder and Leader Govt Officer

Steve Pantelick — Leader Monetary Officer

James Heaney — Analyst

Robert Coolbrith — Analyst

Rob Coolbrith — Analyst

Zach Cummins — Analyst

Andrew Boone — Analyst

Jason Helfstein — Analyst

Matt Swanson — Analyst

Ken Wu — Wolfe Analysis — Analyst

Mauricio Munoz — Raymond James — Analyst

Eric Martinuzzi — Analyst

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