MRNA income name for the era finishing December 31, 2024.
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Moderna (MRNA 1.53%)This fall 2024 Income CallFeb 14, 2025, 8:00 a.m. ET
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Ready Remarks:
Operator
Just right day and thanks for status through. Welcome to the Moderna fourth quarter 2024 convention name. Presently, all members are in a listen-only mode. After the audio system’ presentation, there shall be a question-and-answer consultation.
[Operator instructions] Please be urged, lately’s convention is being recorded. I’d now like handy the convention over on your speaker lately, Lavina Talukdar. Please cross forward.
Lavina Talukdar — Senior Vice President, Head Investor Family members
Thanks, Kevin. Just right morning, everybody, and thanks for becoming a member of lately’s name to talk about Moderna’s fourth quarter and whole yr 2024 monetary effects and industry updates. You’ll be able to get admission to the click liberate issued this morning, in addition to the slides that we will be reviewing, through going to the buyers segment of our site. On lately’s name are Stéphane Bancel, leader govt officer; Jamey Mock, leader monetary officer; and Stephen Hoge, president.
Earlier than we commence, please notice that this convention name will come with forward-looking statements made pursuant to the protected harbor provisions of the Non-public Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Please see Slide 2 of the accompanying presentation and our SEC filings for vital menace components that might motive our precise efficiency and effects to vary materially from the ones expressed or implied in those forward-looking statements. I can now flip the decision over to Stephane.
Stephane V. Bancel — Leader Government Officer
Thanks, Lavina. Just right morning or just right afternoon, everybody. Thanks for becoming a member of us. I can get started with a overview of 2024.
Jamey will provide our monetary effects and outlook. Stephen will overview our medical methods. I can then come again and display our key priorities for 2025 ahead of we take your questions. In 2024, we recorded earnings of $3.2 billion.
The group has labored laborious to generate value financial savings of $2.6 billion or 27% down from 2023. We reported a lack of $3.6 billion. Whilst we had expected to finish the yr with $9 billion in money, because of the group’s paintings on opex, capex, and likewise running capital, we ended up the yr with $9.5 billion of money and investments on the finish. In September 2024, we introduced our focal point on 10 high-value methods for which we predict attainable approvals over a higher 3 years, riding gross sales enlargement and diversification from our best line from COVID.
Those methods come with in breathing vaccines, next-gen COVID, mixture flu plus COVID, RSV 18-59 at high-risk adults, seasonal flu; in latent and different, CMV and norovirus; in uncommon illness, PA and MMA; and in oncology, INT for adjuvant melanoma. Along with riding gross sales enlargement, the prioritization of those methods will permit us to cut back our R&D bills on this time period. From a pipeline perspective, it used to be a yr of sturdy development. In 2024, we changed into a multiproduct corporate with the approval of mResvia.
In conjunction with Spikevax, we’ve got two industrial merchandise available on the market. We reported certain section 3 ends up in 4 of our breathing vaccine methods, and we filed for FDA approval on next-gen COVID or mixture of flu plus COVID and RSV vaccine for RSV 18-59. And our seasonal flu vaccine is lately within the section 3 efficacy trial. We additionally reported further development throughout different methods for the section 1/2 for vaccine in opposition to norovirus, EBV, and VZV.
In oncology, we offered information at main clinical conferences in 2024. For the INT program, in June, we reported certain three-year information in adjuvant melanoma for the section 2 trial. As well as, for our checkpoint program vaccine, mRNA-4359, we offered certain section 1 information in September. In uncommon illnesses, we confirmed certain early protection and medical information from PA and MMA.
With that, I’m going to hand it over to Jamey.
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Thank you, Stephane, and hi, everybody. Lately, I’m going to stroll thru our monetary effects for the fourth quarter and whole yr 2024, offering insights into the important thing drivers in the back of our efficiency. I’m going to additionally define our 2025 monetary framework as we proceed to optimize our operations and place the corporate for long-term good fortune. Let’s start through reviewing our industrial efficiency on Slide 8.
For the fourth quarter of 2024, web gross sales had been $0.9 billion, with $0.2 billion in america and $0.7 billion outdoor america. For the overall yr, web gross sales had been $3.1 billion, on the decrease finish of our revised steerage. U.S. gross sales had been $1.7 billion for the yr, making the most of a $0.2 billion favorable adjustment associated with a prior-period go back reserve reversal.
Apart from this adjustment, gross sales volumes noticed a decline in comparison to ultimate yr, basically because of decrease vaccination charges, decrease marketplace proportion, and larger pageant. On the other hand, we seen indicators of stabilization and consider the COVID marketplace will stay sturdy over the years. Outdoor the U.S., gross sales had been $1.4 billion, aligning with the midpoint of our steerage. This comprises roughly $400 million from advance acquire agreements that won’t recur in 2025.
The majority of our gross sales had been from Spikevax. Whilst we introduced our 2d product, mResvia, within the 0.33 quarter, gross sales had been solely $25 million for the overall yr. Whilst early RSV gross sales had been restricted, we see long-term alternative to increase our presence on this marketplace each within the U.S. and the world over.
Transferring directly to Slide 9, I can now stroll thru our monetary effects for the fourth quarter of 2024. Overall earnings for the fourth quarter used to be $966 million, down 66% from the similar era ultimate yr. As anticipated, gross sales had been impacted through the sooner release of our up to date COVID vaccine within the U.S. with FDA approval granted 3 weeks previous than the prior yr.
This allowed us to fulfill call for quicker, moving a portion of gross sales into the 0.33 quarter. Global gross sales had been additionally decrease yr over yr, reflecting the continuing phaseout of advance acquire agreements. Value of gross sales for the quarter used to be $739 million, together with $45 million in third-party royalties, $193 million in stock write-downs, and a noncash price of $238 million from the termination of a freelance production settlement. The contract termination is a part of our persevered effort to optimize our production footprint following the strategic recycling initiative introduced in 2023 to align with the transition to a seasonal endemic marketplace.
Whilst value of gross sales declined through $190 million in comparison to the prior yr, decrease gross sales volumes drove value of gross sales to 79% of gross sales. Apart from the resizing price, this may had been 53%. R&D bills in This fall had been $1.1 billion, reflecting a 20% year-over-year decline. The lower used to be basically pushed through decrease medical construction and production prices throughout our COVID, RSV, flu, and mixture vaccine methods.
This used to be partly offset through larger funding in our norovirus and INT methods. Moreover, ultimate yr’s R&D bills incorporated $120 million in advance fee associated with our collaboration with Immatics, which didn’t recur this yr. SG&A bills for the fourth quarter had been $351 million, down 25% yr over yr. The lower used to be basically pushed through discounts in acquire products and services and exterior experts as we proceed to concentrate on value control and operational efficiencies.
We known an source of revenue tax advantage of $64 million within the fourth quarter. Very similar to the prior yr, the ease used to be now not subject material because of the worldwide valuation allowance maintained in opposition to maximum of our deferred tax belongings. Internet loss for the quarter used to be $1.1 billion, in comparison to web source of revenue of $217 million in This fall 2023. Loss in line with proportion used to be $2.91, in comparison to income in line with proportion of $0.55 within the prior era.
We ended the quarter with money, money equivalents, and investments totaling $9.5 billion, up from $9.2 billion on the finish of the 0.33 quarter. The rise used to be basically because of accounts receivable collections. Now, let’s flip to our complete yr 2024 monetary effects on Slide 10. Overall earnings for the yr used to be $3.2 billion, a 53% decline from 2023, basically pushed through decrease gross sales, which I mentioned at the prior web page.
Different earnings contributed $127 million for the yr, reflecting grant earnings, collaboration, licensing, and royalty earnings. Value of gross sales for the overall yr 2024 used to be $1.5 billion or 47% of web gross sales. Apart from the $0.2 billion noncash resizing price, this may had been 39% and beneath our earlier steerage of 40% to 45%. This represents a $3.2 billion lower from 2023 because of decrease production resizing fees, in addition to decrease stock write-downs and lowered unutilized production capability prices, all of which replicate advanced potency.
R&D bills for the yr had been $4.5 billion, down 6% from 2023. The lower used to be in large part because of decrease medical trial and production prices, in addition to fewer in advance bills for collaboration agreements. We did, then again, acquire two precedence overview vouchers throughout the yr, which offset a few of the ones financial savings. For the overall yr, SG&A bills totaled $1.2 billion, a 24% lower in comparison to 2023.
The lower displays disciplined value control around the organizations. Now we have persevered to construct functions and convey extra purposes in-house, permitting us to cut back reliance on exterior experts whilst making improvements to operational potency. Moreover, those financial savings had been supported through higher leveraging virtual era and synthetic intelligence to streamline operations. We recorded an source of revenue tax advantage of $46 million for the overall yr, in comparison to an source of revenue tax expense of $772 million in 2023.
This shift is basically because of the worldwide valuation allowance we established ultimate yr on maximum of our deferred tax belongings, which continues to affect our tax place. Internet loss for the yr used to be $3.6 billion, in comparison to $4.7 billion in 2023, with a loss in line with proportion of $9.28, in comparison to $12.33 within the prior era. Transferring to Slide 11, we wish to spotlight the numerous aid in our working bills in 2024. On a GAAP foundation, value declined $3.9 billion from $11.1 billion to $7.2 billion.
Apart from resizing fees of $1.6 billion and $0.2 billion for 2023 and 2024, respectively, we lowered working bills through $2.6 billion in comparison to 2023, pushed through production footprint resizing, pricing renegotiations, R&D prioritization, quantity discounts, and a better use of virtual gear to make stronger potency. Moreover, each 2023 and 2024 working bills incorporated noncash prices of $0.9 billion and $0.6 billion, respectively, associated with stock-based repayment and depreciation and amortization. If we had been to exclude the producing footprint resizing fees, stock-based repayment, and depreciation, our outlined money prices had been $8.9 billion in 2023 and $6.3 billion in 2024, representing a year-over-year decline of $2.6 billion. To steer clear of double counting, please notice that, in 2023, there used to be roughly $300 million of depreciation and amortization incorporated within the $1.6 billion of resizing fees.
We’re dedicated to pressure further value efficiencies in 2025 and past through prioritizing investments to toughen the ten product launches over a higher 3 years. Our 2025 GAAP bills are projected at $6.4 billion in 2025, which contains $0.9 billion of noncash fees from stock-based repayment, depreciation, and amortization. Apart from the ones pieces, we mission a money value of $5.5 billion. This represents an roughly $1 billion year-over-year aid from our prior 2024 projection of $6.5 billion.
We also are making plans for an extra $0.5 billion of expense aid in 2026 as we proceed to pressure efficiencies throughout all spaces of the industry. Now, let’s flip to our monetary framework for 2025. We predict overall earnings in 2025 to be within the vary of $1.5 billion to $2.5 billion, with first part gross sales of roughly $0.2 billion, reflecting the seasonality of our breathing vaccine industry. As mentioned with buyers in January, our wider steerage displays the uncertainties in vaccination charges, the aggressive marketplace atmosphere, the dimensions of the RSV marketplace, and timing of licensure of our factories and product approvals in Australia, Canada, and the U.Okay.
As a reminder, we filed 3 merchandise to the FDA in 2024 and we don’t seem to be together with any new product earnings in our steerage vary. Additionally, we predict the earnings and R&D expense from our just lately introduced pandemic influenza program to be slightly immaterial in 2025 and is embedded in our steerage. Value of gross sales is projected to be roughly $1.2 billion, reflecting persevered enhancements in production potency and decrease anticipated stock write-offs, offset through larger prices related to the go-live of our new production websites in Australia, Canada, and the U.Okay. R&D bills are expected to be roughly $4.1 billion as we proceed to spend money on our late-stage pipeline whilst keeping up monetary self-discipline.
SG&A bills are anticipated to be roughly $1.1 billion, reflecting a persevered focal point on potency whilst supporting our industrial execution. We predict taxes to be negligible in 2025. Capital expenditures are projected to be roughly $0.4 billion. This build up from our prior steerage of $0.3 billion is basically because of the timing of spend between 2024 and 2025.
2024 precise capital expenditures used to be roughly $150 million beneath our prior steerage. A few of that aid used to be as a result of prioritization adjustments, however the majority of the affect used to be timing of spend between 2024 and 2025. We predict to finish 2025 with roughly $6 billion in money and investments. In abstract, 2024 used to be a yr of monetary self-discipline, and we’re well-positioned as we input 2025.
We stay dedicated to managing prices, optimizing our operations, and making an investment in our long term enlargement. With that, I can now flip the decision over to Stephen.
Stephen Hoge — President
Thanks, Jamey. Just right morning or just right afternoon, everybody. Slide 15 presentations the prioritized methods we highlighted at our R&D Day in September. As Stephane discussed previous, we’re desirous about pursuing those 10 approvals over a higher 3 years to pressure enlargement.
Now we have now filed for approval for 3 breathing vaccines: our next-gen COVID vaccine, our RSV vaccine for high-risk adults ages 18 to 59, and our flu-COVID mixture vaccine for folks age 50 and older. Many of the different seven prioritized methods are in pivotal research, and the remaining are anticipated to start their pivotal research within the close to long term. Slide 16 highlights the latest updates from our late-stage portfolio. As a reminder, in September, we offered certain efficacy and immunogenicity information from our next-gen COVID vaccine, mRNA-1283.
Now we have since filed for approval in more than one jurisdictions and feature a PDUFA date of Would possibly thirty first in america. Additionally in September, we shared certain section 3 information for RSV vaccine in high-risk adults ages 18 to 59. This vaccine has additionally been filed for approval in more than one nations with a PDUFA date of June twelfth in america. For our mixture flu-COVID vaccine, we prior to now shared certain section 3 immunogenicity and protection information.
And at the foundation of that information, we filed for approval on the finish of ultimate yr in america and different nations. Now we have prior to now demonstrated efficacy for the flu — for the COVID part of the vaccine. Demonstration of efficacy for the flu part would possibly in the end be required for approval. To that finish, our stand-alone flu vaccine, mRNA-1010, is lately in a section 3 efficacy find out about this is accruing instances unexpectedly.
In keeping with the present tempo of case accrual, we’re positive that we will behavior the primary research of efficacy for our flu vaccine on the finish of the present season. Now, turning to our nonrespiratory portfolio, beginning with our latent and different virus vaccines. For our CMV vaccine, we introduced ultimate month that the Information and Protection Tracking Board knowledgeable us that the early efficacy standards used to be now not met and beneficial that the find out about proceed to its base line. We stay blinded to the find out about and proceed to be expecting the effects for the overall research later this yr.
Our norovirus vaccine section 3 find out about is totally enrolled within the Northern Hemisphere, and we’re making ready to sign up members for the impending Southern Hemisphere season. The trial is lately on FDA medical dangle within the U.S. following the only case of Guillain-Barre syndrome, which stays underneath investigation. For the reason that enrollment had already finished for this season, we don’t lately be expecting any affect on timelines whilst we entire the investigation and replace trial paperwork with this data.
In oncology, we and our spouse Merck have more than one late-stage research underway comparing INT, or mRNA-4157, together with Keytruda. The primary of which, adjuvant melanoma, is a part of our 10 prioritized methods. The section 3 for that is now totally enrolled. Two further section 3 research are underway in non-small mobile lung most cancers, and there are two randomized section 2 trials ongoing in high-risk muscle-invasive bladder most cancers and adjuvant renal mobile carcinoma.
In uncommon illnesses, propionic acidemia, or PA, is in its registrational find out about; and methylmalonic acidemia, or MMA, we’ve — with MMA, we’ve agreed with FDA on our pivotal find out about design and be expecting to begin that find out about in 2025. With that, I’m going to now hand it again to Stephane.
Stephane V. Bancel — Leader Government Officer
Thanks, Stephen and Jamey. For 2025, we’ve 3 priorities. Precedence one is to pressure gross sales of authorized merchandise. Precedence two is to concentrate on our late-stage pipeline the place we consider we’ve as much as 10 product approvals over a higher 3 years and which must pressure gross sales enlargement and diversification.
Precedence 3 is to ship value potency around the industry. Let me take you thru every of those. Our first precedence is to pressure use of Spikevax and mResvia vaccines. Importantly, we entered 2025 with two authorized merchandise, which provides us a greater aggressive positioning than once we entered 2024.
We [Inaudible] within the U.S., we predict to higher compete within the breathing vaccine marketplace. As well as, upcoming mResvia approvals outdoor the U.S. must additionally upload to gross sales in 2025. Precedence two, we’re desirous about turning in as much as 10 merchandise approval over a higher 3 years, which we consider will pressure gross sales enlargement.
In combination, those 10 expected merchandise goal a complete addressable marketplace of over $30 billion. Precedence 3, ship value efficiencies around the industry. Now we have demonstrated our dedication to price financial savings through the $2.6 billion value aid we made in 2024. We can proceed to concentrate on making improvements to potency through lowering prices throughout all the corporate, throughout production, around the R and likewise D, and throughout SG&A in 2025 but additionally in 2026.
For potency program, we are lowering money prices to an estimated $5.5 billion in 2025 and $5 billion in 2026. This brings our overall money value aid to over properly over $1 billion over those two years from the $6.3 billion in 2024. We can proceed to handle our value construction to verify we spoil even on a money value foundation no later than 2028. In different phrases, to be very transparent, if wanted, we can cut back our value construction additional than the 5 billion money value stage if our gross sales goals don’t seem to be met.
For us to have 10 [Inaudible] merchandise, we predict vital milestones. We discover 3 spaces. For CMV, we sit up for having the overall results of our section 3 find out about in 2025. Norovirus vaccines are in section 3 research, and the timing of the information shall be matter to case accrual.
For the INT vaccine for adjuvant melanoma, we can even be matter to occasion accrual. For PA, we’re already producing information from our registrational find out about, and we predict to begin a registrational find out about for MMA this yr. We can proceed to concentrate on turning in the best conceivable affect to folks thru mRNA drugs. Our portfolio of goods and pipeline are progressing properly.
Two authorized merchandise, 3 [Inaudible] filed, and 6 section 3 or pivotal research ongoing. Our mRNA platform is operating. Now we have demonstrated development in our value aid program. Now we have proven that we’ve got the monetary self-discipline to succeed in our targets and satisfy our venture.
With this, operator, we will feel free to take questions.
Questions & Solutions:
Operator
Thanks. [Operator instructions] Our first query comes from Ellie Merle with UBS. Your line is open.
Ellie Merle — Analyst
Howdy, guys. Thanks for taking the query. Are you able to lend a hand us perceive the breakdown of the R&D spend throughout your program? So, when you had to or sought after to cut back R&D spend additional, how a lot flexibility is there at the expense construction there for, say, additional cuts within the 2026 time period? After which only a 2d query, at the medical dangle on norovirus, are you able to give to any extent further element round type of this why one case of GBS precipitated the medical dangle? And yeah, to any extent further colour surrounding the placement there can be useful. Thank you.
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Yeah. Thank you, Ellie, for the questions. Possibly I’m going to cope with the primary one on R&D. So, we nonetheless assume there is a large number of room to be lowered and a large number of flexibility.
So, as a reminder, we are guiding $4.1 billion for 2025. And in R&D Day, we mentioned we’d take it down through $1.1 billion bucks from the $4.8 billion stage through 2027. So, that means quite a lot of about $3.6 billion, $3.7 billion. To respond to your query on what we are spending on, that is nonetheless again basically over 50% of our trial spend.
And subsequently, overhead is expounded to breathing trials, which, as you understand, we predict to roll off over this yr and the next yr. After which the one different section 3 trials that we now have began are in latent illness and oncology for norovirus and CMV and INT, and we predict the ones to be lowered over the approaching years as properly. So, we predict that there shall be some flexibility past the $3.6 billion that we now have already indicated. However presently, we are nonetheless tracking the gross sales line, however this is a space that lets proceed to cut back if want be.
Stephen Hoge — President
And thanks for the second one query. I’m going to take it. So, just a bit little bit of context. As you alluded to, you understand, GBS does occur clearly within the background inhabitants.
It is normally noticed in older adults, about one to 2 in line with 100,000 members in line with yr or folks in line with yr. And given we now have enrolled properly over 250,000 members in research over the past couple of years, it would not be sudden to look instances in our medical trials, as you urged. And even though that hasn’t been related as a menace issue with our authorized vaccines, you understand, that is one thing that does occur. Because it pertains to this example, once we known it, we proactively determined to pause our actions and replace our find out about paperwork as a result of we prioritize affected person protection and clearly transparency, in the beginning, and we needed to ensure that all that knowledge used to be shared as quickly because the case emerged.
We submitted the ones for overview with regulators globally, and the FDA has positioned us on a medical dangle whilst they overview that knowledge and the ones paperwork. Possibly most significantly, for find out about behavior, as a result of we had enrolled and dosed everyone previous to the emergence of this example within the present season find out about, we in reality do not be expecting there to be any affect at the behavior of the find out about or its timelines for readout on efficacy, which is able to in the end be case-driven. So, from our aspect, that is with reference to being prudent and clear and ensuring that we are prioritizing affected person protection.
Ellie Merle — Analyst
Understood. Thanks.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Gena Wang with Barclays. Your line is open.
Gena Wang — Analyst
Thanks. Possibly I’m going to simply persist with up at the norovirus. What wouldn’t it take for the FDA to take away the medical dangle? What sort of an consequence they might deem to be OK? After which connected — any other query in regards to the CMV. Now, we must see extra occasions accrue.
Will it nonetheless occur within the first part of ’25, must we see the overall readout?
Stephen Hoge — President
So, Gena, you broke for only a 2d. May you repeat the CMV portion of the query?
Gena Wang — Analyst
Positive. CMV, you understand, since now we are seeing further months of occasions accruing, must we nonetheless be capable to see the overall readout within the first part of ’25?
Stephen Hoge — President
Thanks. So, I feel — let me maintain that first. So, sure, we proceed to accrue instances within the CMV trial. As I mentioned, we stay blinded to the intervening time research.
We nonetheless do be expecting that lead to 2025. I do not know that we now have guided to the particular timing, however we nonetheless do be expecting the lead to ’25. Because it pertains to norovirus medical dangle, clearly, I feel the FDA wishes time to check the fabrics we now have submitted. They will come again with some questions.
In the event that they do, we will reply the ones. However as has been urged even within the query, the case of GBS isn’t essentially sudden. And since we now have up to date the paperwork, we in reality do be expecting there to be minimum affect on trial behavior at this level. However it will be in the end as much as the company what they wish to see ahead of we transfer ahead with additional enrollment in our find out about.
Gena Wang — Analyst
Thanks.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Michael Yee with Jefferies. Your line is open.
Michael Yee — Analyst
Hello. Thank you. Just right morning. We had two timing questions for you, guys.
First at the INT most cancers vaccine, which, in fact, is a in reality thrilling product. I feel, prior to now, when you’ve accomplished some math at the section 2, it is no doubt conceivable at the occasion charges that had been noticed in section 2 that the information may just come through finish of yr or first part of ’26, and the corporate has now not completely dissuaded us or others from that form of timing. Do you most often consider that timing and are you able to shed some gentle on the right way to take into consideration the powering for the INT most cancers vaccine number one finish level? After which in a similar fashion, with the norovirus, I feel you discussed that you are enrolling the Southern Hemisphere however finished the Northern. Do you want each to hit the main or to hit the development price and simply lend a hand us perceive the timing of that even though it is on dangle, the Northern, which already finished enrollment? Thanks.
Stephen Hoge — President
Thank you for the query. So, first, on INT, the — there are some variations between the find out about inhabitants between the section 2 and the section 3, and so we can wish to be guided through the true occasion accrual, case accrual price, the relapse price within the section 3 find out about ahead of we really feel assured that lets be offering a timing on that. And so, as we’ve began to accrue instances — the find out about, as you understand, is totally enrolled, so there are going to be occasions that begin to occur — we will have a greater sense of that. For sure, you understand, 2026 turns out conceivable, believable.
However whether or not or now not it might be at the early aspect of that or the overdue aspect of that, we simply do not know at this level. It’s event-driven. And so, extra as we’ve knowledge sooner or later. At the query of norovirus, so we’ve — we totally enrolled and completely dosed the Northern Hemisphere find out about, which is almost all of the find out about.
However given epidemiology, we additionally sought after to sign up some members in Southern Hemisphere geographies. On the finish of the day, we can even be case-driven, so that you in the end want instances of norovirus towards that efficacy finish level since the majority — the sizable majority of the find out about is totally enrolled now. However this Northern Hemisphere is totally enrolled, which is almost all of the members we supposed. It is conceivable that we may not want Southern Hemisphere members, however we do intend to sign up Southern Hemisphere as a result of we would like a broader epidemiology towards that ultimate finish level.
So, once more, we do not know when that may occur. We do lately hope that we are sufficiently powered on this season to look efficacy. But when extra members are wanted, then, in fact, we can sign up them to accrue extra instances towards that efficacy finish level.
Michael Yee — Analyst
Were given it. Thanks, guys.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Salveen Richter — Analyst
Just right morning. Thank you for taking my questions. May you lend a hand us perceive what the medical bar is for the norovirus program? After which at the INT portfolio, do we get any information or simply enrollment updates for the methods past melanoma? Thanks.
Stephen Hoge — President
So, the — at the medical bar for norovirus, clearly, you understand, there are different vaccines in the market for gastrointestinal infections, rotavirus and others, the place we can wish to display a significant lower within the price of average to critical gastrointestinal signs. The ones are in reality the place the load of illness occurs, specifically in higher-risk populations like older adults or the immunocompromised. We will take a look at a gorgeous large vary of finish issues as secondary exploratory finish issues as properly, such things as hospitalization, usage of healthcare products and services. Now we have now not disclosed our goal product profile for that but or the powering assumptions we’ve on this intervening time research, and so I may not do this right here, however we can possibly, sooner or later, supply an replace on that.
However we can be on the lookout for a significant aid within the price of average to critical acute gastroenteritis. As for INT, clearly, we are all shopping ahead to the melanoma — adjuvant melanoma section 3 readout. As you understand and as I discussed, there are further section 3s, in addition to two randomized section 2s, together with in bladder most cancers and renal mobile carcinoma, which, relying at the price of accrual of occasions, can have readouts that we might be updating on as properly within the coming years.
Operator
Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Terence Flynn with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Terence Flynn — Analyst
Hello. Thank you for taking the query. Possibly a two-part for me. Simply questioning if you’ll ascertain when you nonetheless have now not noticed any instances of GBS along with your RSV vaccine.
After which I do know you filed for popularity of the COVID-flu combo vaccine, and it seems like now you might be looking forward to some vaccine efficacy information. Are you able to let us know the rest extra there about, you understand, what the bar is, is it solely at the flu aspect or do you want vaccine efficacy for each COVID as properly, and more or less what stage of coverage you might be — you want to look? Thanks.
Stephen Hoge — President
Thank you for each questions. So, first, I will ascertain that GBS has now not but or has now not been known as a menace issue for RSV vaccine or our COVID vaccine Spikevax up to now. And so, clearly, we will proceed to trace that carefully, however that is encouraging. At the combo find out about, so we’ve demonstrated efficacy for the COVID part.
As you might take into account, mRNA-1283 had a a hit efficacy find out about in — that we introduced ultimate yr, and that’s the COVID part of the mix vaccine, and so it does fulfill that requirement. As for the flu vaccine, we’ve had more than one section 3 readouts in our flu vaccines, in addition to for the mix vaccine, demonstrating non-inferior or awesome immunogenicity and just right protection profile for the ones vaccines, however we’ve now not but demonstrated efficacy for the flu part of that vaccine. That trial, as I discussed, is if truth be told ongoing presently. And for the reason that this can be a tough flu season within the Northern Hemisphere, as many other people know, and given the case accrual price we see there, we do be expecting that we will — we are if truth be told relatively positive we will be capable to behavior the primary intervening time research of efficacy on the finish of this present season.
And so, that may then be the demonstration of efficacy for the flu part of the mix vaccine.
Operator
Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Tyler Van Buren with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Tyler Van Buren — Analyst
Howdy, guys. Thank you for the replace and for taking the query. Referring to CMV, simply to verify, although the criterion for early efficacy used to be now not met on the intervening time, is it nonetheless conceivable {that a} increased vaccine efficacy threshold from the primary intervening time may just nonetheless be reached with the overall research because of a large self assurance period with fewer sufferers on the time of DSMB overview or do you assume that is much less most likely?
Stephen Hoge — President
Thank you for the query. So, you understand, what we — when you take a look at the ability that we had at that first intervening time research, it if truth be told, you understand, used to be supposed as an early glance however now not sufficiently powered that you’d have excessive self assurance if it used to be in between efficacy. And because of this, it’s nonetheless very a lot conceivable that, on the base line, with many extra instances, the arrogance periods slim, and what we see is some degree estimate for efficacy this is favorable from our standpoint, meets or exceeds our expectancies for the objective product profile. Crucial factor to mention, despite the fact that, is that we stay utterly unaware of this.
All we all know is that the arrogance period didn’t exclude the decrease certain goal. And given the powering of the find out about that — for that intervening time research, that isn’t essentially sudden, preventing for early efficacy, early standards, and would had been an upside situation in our view. So, we stay blinded. We can accrue the overall collection of instances.
We proceed doing that during that find out about, after which we will glance to that base line, which is if truth be told the totally powered research, for assessing in opposition to our goal product profile.
Operator
Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Luca Issi with RBC Capital. Your line is open.
Luca Issi — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Nice. Thank you such a lot for taking my query. Possibly, Stephane, large image, everyone knows that you’ve labored very carefully with the Trump management throughout the pandemic, however have you ever talked to both the president, RFK, or any in their consultant this time round? If this is the case, what has been the message that you’ve been listening to from them? I feel any colour there can be a lot liked. After which perhaps 2d, Stephen, on norovirus, are you able to simply communicate in regards to the timing of the GBS case? Is that one thing that happens quickly after the person receives the vaccine or perhaps many months after that? I am simply seeking to perceive correlation as opposed to causation right here.
So, once more, any colour, a lot liked. Thank you such a lot.
Stephane V. Bancel — Leader Government Officer
Thanks for the query. So, as you understand, we labored productively with the Trump management within the President Trump’s first mandate, and we sit up for running with the brand new group as they get showed through the Senate and the other contributors. Vaccines are crucial piece of retaining folks wholesome, and we sit up for having the ones discussions as folks get showed. Stephen.
Stephen Hoge — President
Yeah. And as — at the norovirus case, as you almost certainly will know, we — we now have enrolled about 20,000 members in that find out about in simply the ultimate couple of months. It is all been slightly fast enrollment for the present norovirus season. For this reason, you understand, you’ll consider that it is slightly proximal, which is why we are being wary in speaking round it, in the beginning, with members, investigators, and regulators, in order that they’ve that knowledge.
Now, to the purpose of correlation as opposed to causation, it’s a must to notice that, on this case, they are — those extraordinarily uncommon occasions that do occur, it is very laborious regularly to after all resolve a causal dating. And so, rather than reporting it that it took place round this time and investigating it totally and speaking about it, we would possibly by no means have a solution past that. However out of appreciate for the, you understand, confidentiality for that player, and extra most often, I do not believe I would supply to any extent further details about it rather than we proceed to analyze it and spot if what the prospective reasons can be.
Luca Issi — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Were given it. Thank you such a lot.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Cory Kasimov with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
Unknown speaker — — Analyst
Hello. That is Adi on for Cory. I sought after to invite on what conceivable adjustments have you ever noticed prior to now month that has brought about the bump to expense steerage already?
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
To expense steerage, Adi?
Unknown speaker — — Analyst
The rise in, you understand, R&D and SG&A spend.
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
I feel — so I do not know if it’s kind of complicated. So, we now have been mainly speaking about two other units of numbers, neither have modified. One is our GAAP value, Adi, and one which contains stock-based repayment and depreciation and amortization. So, perhaps that is what you might be relating to as opposed to what we outline as money prices, which excludes the ones two numbers, that have now not modified.
And as a reminder, the ones numbers had been with regards to $9 billion in 2023. They’d — we had $6.3 billion in 2024. We are guiding to $5.5 billion in 2025 and $5 billion in 2026. So, possibly you are looking on the GAAP inclusion, however I — we’ve now not modified any estimates from our value.
Unknown speaker — — Analyst
Were given it. And I had only one extra follow-up, if you’ll supply to any extent further colour at the language of the PA program? The PR at JPM and lately’s PR recommend attainable lower in MDE frequency. Sought after only a few further colour on it.
Stephen Hoge — President
Yeah. Thanks for that. So, at the — as we had prior to now disclosed from our ongoing medical trial there, we’ve noticed an important — a considerable lower within the price of metabolic decompensation occasions in that propionic acidemia, PA, find out about. And we consider and in the end have agreed with regulators that that’s the finish level that we can assess for the pivotal a part of that find out about.
Now we have moved ahead into that pivotal section. So, what we will be shopping at is the charges of metabolic decompensation, or MDEs, for members previous to being on drug as opposed to when they get started remedy with that drugs. That price and the aid in it’s going to in the end be, we consider, the pivotal finish level that may toughen registration for the drug for PA. And so, as we transfer ahead with new members, in addition to some older different members who’re already at the find out about, we will be shopping at that comparability on aid within the charges of MDE.
Operator
Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Courtney Breen with Bernstein. Your line is open.
Courtney Breen — AllianceBernstein — Analyst
Improbable. Thanks such a lot for taking the decision lately — taking the query lately. I sought after to more or less pivot slightly bit to one of the crucial prices as properly and particularly the stock write-downs. I feel they remain a subject matter for more or less seasonal vaccines the place it’s a must to produce prematurely after which see the season play out.
I would like to grasp slightly bit extra about what the long run seems like on this house. You are going to proceed to be in a seasonal marketplace more or less each with COVID and now with flu and with RSV. And so, as we take into consideration more or less projecting and production correctly to attenuate the ones write-downs however maximize the chance, what does just right appear to be, primary, more or less what’s the purpose with regards to restricted stock write-downs? And quantity two, more or less what are the issues that you are converting to more or less proceed to make stronger your talent to make to the correct amount?
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Yeah, thank you for the query, Courtney. It is a nice one. So, as you understand, and perhaps simply to step again, you understand, 2023, I put out of your mind what the numbers are, however we now have lowered this dramatically already. However nevertheless, we did have $500 million of stock write-downs in 2024 and about $100 million of unutilized production capability.
And so, at $600 million on $3 billion of gross sales, this is clearly now not what just right seems like but. What I can say is way of that is associated with our uncooked fabrics the place we take a stock reserve founded upon long term call for. And when you take a look at our stock ranges now, Courtney, we’re underneath $300 million, I feel $270 million. So, the cross ahead must glance significantly better as we mission transferring ahead at the uncooked subject material aspect.
At the extra capability aspect, you might be proper, we nonetheless have a good quantity of both write-offs of excellent product that we produce as a result of we produced ultimate yr, for instance, we assumed $4 billion in gross sales and we got here in at $3 billion, so we clearly overproduced. And we’re nonetheless going to supply to the upper finish of our steerage vary of $1.5 billion to $2.5 billion, which is why you spot a price of gross sales in the community of fifty%. However as we get well, what we are running on is matching what does that long term call for appear to be and what’s the provide that we must account for. And for example, as we now have persevered to regulate for that, that is the instance of the termination of a freelance production settlement that we had within the fourth quarter.
So, we proceed to be proactive about what’s that long term call for, what’s the capability we require, and also you must see that come down. And no doubt, 600 million on 3 billion isn’t what we predict. We would like that to be, you understand, lower than 10% shall we say over the years. However I am not announcing that that may occur within the yr 2025, however it’s going to get well additionally as a result of our stock steadiness is down dramatically.
Courtney Breen — AllianceBernstein — Analyst
Thanks.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Edward Tenthoff with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Edward Tenthoff — Analyst
Nice. Thanks very a lot. Maximum of my questions had been replied, however I feel I noticed some information perhaps at the Vertex CF program, and I used to be questioning if it’s essential to simply more or less give us an replace on what is going on there with that uncommon illness program? Thank you.
Stephen Hoge — President
Yeah. So, thanks for the query, Ted. So, we proceed with our spouse Vertex, who’s undertaking that medical trial. So, they are the sponsor for the find out about and feature probably the most knowledge on it.
However we proceed down the trail of we now have finished the only ascending dose portion of that trial and are actually within the more than one ascending dose portion of that trial. This is sufferers receiving remedy steadily to in the end measure whether or not or now not we are having an impact on our breathing measures and optimistically general addressing the load of CF in the ones sufferers that may’t take the small molecule correctors. We do be expecting a readout from that more than one ascending dose trial. I feel Vertex has prior to now guided that we predict that this yr, and we can search for them to supply additional updates on that timing in the event that they occur.
Edward Tenthoff — Analyst
Nice. Thank you, Stephen.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Jessica Fye with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
Jessica Fye — Analyst
Howdy, guys. Just right morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I had a couple of follow-ups for Stephen simply from prior questions I used to be hoping to explain the reaction on.
On norovirus, how assured are you that the trial won’t cross on some similar of medical dangle within the Southern Hemisphere? Produce other world regulators showed they shouldn’t have a pause to check the ideas or is there a possibility of stoppage there? For CMV, simply following up on Gena’s query. I feel, prior to now, you had mentioned the overall CMV research may just come mere months after the intervening time, which we heard about in January. So, must we nonetheless call to mind that as the primary part of ’25 or are you able to explain the prior reply? After which at the 1083 COVID-flu submitting, I feel the click liberate states that approval would possibly require vaccine efficacy information from the section 3 flu trial. Why is {that a} level of uncertainty that the FDA would possibly require it? Have they now not been transparent with you to your pre-submission assembly? After which finally, for Jamey, are you able to recap what variables within the COVID vaccine and RSV markets would land you on the low finish or the excessive finish of your ’25 steerage of like value vaccination charges, marketplace proportion, stuff like that? Thanks.
Stephen Hoge — President
So, quite a bit there for me, so I’m going to cross first after which kick it to Jamey. So, first at the Northern Hemisphere and the norovirus find out about, as we mentioned, we are — we can glance to sign up a 2d season within the Southern Hemisphere. At this time, we don’t be expecting any delays in doing that. For the reason that we’ve enrolled over 20,000 members in that find out about already in Northern Hemisphere, if there have been any delays, we are not certain that it will have an affect to review timeline.
However at this level, we are as assured as we will be able to be the — that there may not be any delays within the Southern Hemisphere. Because it pertains to CMV, on case accrual, the second one part — we’ve prior to now mentioned that case accrual used to be transferring slightly temporarily. It continues to accrue often within the find out about. In the long run, it is an event-driven research, so we will be able to’t essentially are expecting the timeline, however we prior to now indicated that we anticipated it possibly mid-2025.
We aren’t converting that right here. We proceed to consider that that is conceivable. And in the end, once more, it’s going to depend on the velocity of case accruals, which we do not regulate. As with the 1083, and so for the flu-COVID product, once we submitted the package deal and as a part of our preliminary trade with regulators, we’re figuring out overview questions that they have got or problems.
And as we mentioned in our press liberate, in some instances, the proximity of the flu efficacy readout in reality does loom huge at the general overview for the mix product, and we can be — we do be expecting that that can be important in some instances now, that that flu efficacy readout is anticipated in a while. You realize, because it pertains to particular person conversations with particular person regulators, I’m going to say we are running thru their overview questions in that submission, and I may not another way touch upon the ones particular again and forths. And with that, I suppose I’m going to flip it over to you, Jamey.
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
OK. Thank you. So, thank you, Jess. Yeah, two — as a reminder, at the excessive finish, the two.5 billion, when you exclude the unusuals we noticed in 2024, we name that necessarily flat.
So, in my ready remarks, the U.S. got here in at $1.7 billion. It had a $200 million go back reversal adjustment from the prior yr, which might take that to a couple of $1.5 billion quantity. After which outdoor america, we had been at $1.4 billion, and we mentioned that there used to be about $400 million of complex acquire agreements that the call for stage we do not wait for repeating.
So, the excessive finish is basically flat, Jess. So, you’ll wait for each throughout the U.S. and outdoor the U.S. an identical marketplace proportion, vaccination charges.
We do have slightly little bit of uptick in RSV within the excessive finish, however it is altogether slightly minimum, basically. At the low finish, it mainly assumes no build up in RSV. On — within the U.S., you would need to be expecting it to move down considerably. So, you would must be expecting it to move down 5% to ten% from a marketplace proportion standpoint.
Vaccination charges must cross down once more 7% to ten%. Either one of the ones issues must occur to move down shall we say $0.5 billion. After which in reality, the largest issue outdoor america are the licensure timing of our vegetation within the U.Okay., Canada, and Australia. So, must the ones be authorized and registered on time, we can be at the higher finish.
But when they’re behind schedule, we now have factored that into the decrease finish of our steerage.
Jessica Fye — Analyst
Very useful. Thank you.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Simon Baker with Redburn Atlantic. Your line is open.
Simon Baker — Analyst
Thanks for taking my query and there is additionally a explanation. Jamey, you discussed the spend on breathing trials being 50%. Was once that fifty% of your overall trial spend or 50% of your R&D spend? After which simply any other query at the flu-COVID combo, following off from Jessica’s query. I am simply to grasp what the mechanism is and the timing at which level the regulators may just ask for additonal information.
Is that this one thing that might come at any time? If it occurs quicker slightly than later, do you assume it will have an affect at the approval timeline? And is there any dangers within the U.S. that the preliminary submitting will get an entire reaction after which it’s a must to refile with that COVID information? Any colour at the machinations of that may be very to hand. Thanks.
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Yeah. Thank you, Simon. At the first one, I used to be referencing 50% of the trial expense, which is what we get away in our 10-Okay. There are different line pieces that hit R&D with regards to the overhead that helps it, folks, the websites, and so on., our production amenities, in addition to analysis, however the 50% that I used to be referencing is in reality trial-related, however it’s essential to consider lots of the ones different prices also are connected, subsequently, to the breathing trials as properly.
Stephen Hoge — President
Yeah. Thanks. And so, for the clarifying query, once more, we’ve filed in more than one geographies, and I may not touch upon particular person regulatory exchanges. However most often talking, we — you understand, as part of the preliminary spherical of questions and comments that we are receiving, there are cases the place we expect we can be dependent upon that efficacy information from the 1010 find out about, which we do be expecting within the coming months, the present season to be to be had.
The timing of that readout and the affect at the overview procedure for regulators isn’t one thing I will are expecting at this level, however we are in energetic dialogue with regulators about it. For sure, it’s conceivable that if this is considerably behind schedule or if it’s not a positive efficacy readout, that it would, evidently, prolong or affect the timelines of popularity of the mix product. If we’re ready to finish that submission and get that information to regulators and they are able to behavior that overview, it is conceivable that we proceed with that overview with out considerable prolong. In the long run, we do not know at this level as a result of it’s going to depend on the ones submissions and discussions with regulators that we are having presently.
However we did wish to, you understand, flag that we do assume in keeping with one of the crucial preliminary conversations that we is also dependent upon that information in the end for approval with some — in some geographies.
Simon Baker — Analyst
That is very useful. Thanks.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Myles Minter with William Blair. Your line is open.
Myles Minter — William Blair and Corporate — Analyst
Howdy. Thank you for taking the query. Only one on attainable ACIP advice overview for RSV vaccines. Do you are expecting that listening to to be in February or the June assembly, and is there the rest constructed into the highest finish of that 2.5 billion earnings steerage from mResvia that will require a widening of that advice than it lately stands? Thank you very a lot.
Stephen Hoge — President
So, I’m going to take the primary query on timing. You realize, we are patently running carefully with public well being officers at the widening. We filed for popularity of the 18 to 59 high-risk inhabitants. At this level, we don’t seem to be but authorized.
And so, from a broader type of engagement with ACIP standpoint, we will watch for approval ahead of we do this too widely. We do be expecting that the benefit-risk is favorable for RSV vaccines, together with mResvia. And so, do sit up for enlargement of the advice to hide high-risk populations, each the 50 to 59, which had prior to now been mentioned, however in the end, optimistically, 18-plus high-risk populations. And, Jamey, I do not know if you’ll be able to take —
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Yeah. Positive. Yeah. So, Myles, as I discussed in Jess’ query, we’ve slightly little bit of enlargement in RSV, however I additionally discussed that we’ve got not anything associated with new product approvals in our steerage for 2025.
So, that does not come with the next-gen COVID vaccine or what Stephen simply talked in regards to the expanded indication associated with RSV or the rest from a mixture approval must it occur.
Myles Minter — William Blair and Corporate — Analyst
Nice. Thank you.
Operator
Our subsequent query comes from Tim Anderson with Financial institution of The us. Your line is open.
Tim Anderson — Financial institution of The us Merrill Lynch — Analyst
Thanks. So, if I may just simply return to that very ultimate level, for your 2022 earnings steerage, you might be now not together with any new merchandise. Is smart for RSV as a result of that may be tiny. Make sense for the mix product as a result of the explanations that you simply defined.
However why would not the next-gen COVID product be incorporated in steerage at this level for the reason that the PDUFA date isn’t very some distance away, finish of Would possibly? It is a well-characterized paradigm having COVID vaccines in the market. I am simply questioning if that loss of inclusion steerage anticipates some uncertainty about approval given the brand new management coming in and this commonplace thread of more or less an anti-COVID stance throughout a lot of people from the Trump management. After which 2d query, on norovirus, if you are totally enrolled, what does the FDA acquire through hanging this system on medical dangle? Is that only a compelled disclosure of that opposed occasion to the medical and affected person group or is there any other explanation why they might do that?
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Yeah, Tim. Thank you for the query. Possibly I’m going to take the primary one. So, I do not believe there is a lot to learn into right here.
I feel we now have discovered our lesson entering 2024 with regards to guiding with a product that has but to be authorized. So, transferring ahead, we’ve eradicated any merchandise. In fact, there might be upside, however I feel we means our steerage working out that there’s variability; and subsequently, we can now not put the — any earnings associated with the next-gen COVID or any of the opposite two merchandise as properly. And once more, I do not believe there is the rest to learn into because of that.
Stephen Hoge — President
Yeah. So — and at the query of norovirus, so importantly, we’ve already proactively communicated round this to the entire investigators and IRBs and regulators around the globe. So, that communique has took place. And if truth be told, we now have up to date the entire paperwork that may be important to type of widely establish this.
So, the aim for the medical dangle, you understand, in the end, we might must learn — wait for or ask the FDA that query. I imply, at this level, they are correctly and we expect prudently and conservatively reviewing the paperwork and ensuring that they — all their questions are replied round this. It does now not affect, from our standpoint, presently, within the Northern Hemisphere find out about behavior. And so, we will sit up for enticing with them, answering the ones questions, optimistically finishing that overview, putting off that dangle.
However as we mentioned, we can now not then reinitiate any enrollment as a result of we’ve got 20,000 members within the Northern Hemisphere, which is greater than we really feel like we’d like. And so, we will simply reply the ones questions and transfer ahead. However I in reality could not be offering another perception round it, however it no doubt is not round transparency or communique as a result of that each one took place proactively. We did that ahead of — as we submitted the entire knowledge to them and others.
Operator
Thanks, girls and gents. This does conclude the Q&A portion of lately’s convention. I would like to show the decision again to Stephane for any ultimate remarks.
Stephane V. Bancel — Leader Government Officer
Thanks very a lot, everyone, for becoming a member of us and to your just right questions. Have a super day, and we sit up for talking to a couple of you within the subsequent hours and within the subsequent days. Bye.
Operator
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Name members:
Lavina Talukdar — Senior Vice President, Head Investor Family members
Stephane V. Bancel — Leader Government Officer
Jamey Mock — Leader Monetary Officer
Stephen Hoge — President
Stéphane Bancel — Leader Government Officer
Ellie Merle — Analyst
Gena Wang — Analyst
Michael Yee — Analyst
Mike Yee — Analyst
Salveen Richter — Analyst
Terence Flynn — Analyst
Tyler Van Buren — Analyst
Luca Issi — RBC Capital Markets — Analyst
Unknown speaker — — Analyst
Courtney Breen — AllianceBernstein — Analyst
Edward Tenthoff — Analyst
Ted Tenthoff — Analyst
Jessica Fye — Analyst
Simon Baker — Analyst
Myles Minter — William Blair and Corporate — Analyst
Tim Anderson — Financial institution of The us Merrill Lynch — Analyst
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